Which "sound" is "that" then?

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Re: Which "sound" is "that" then?

Postby OLDEREK » Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:46 pm

Gary Allen wrote:http://www.4shared.com/file/109188693/24d8d74a/Peace_Pipe-Gary_Allen.html I Tried this a few months back with a 56cs strat-12-52 strings-q2-90s ac15................


Gary that was superb.................. * * * * * :D
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Re: Which "sound" is "that" then?

Postby Didier » Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:05 pm

Bojan wrote:Isn't it amazing that Gégé manages to get one of the best Hank sounds without a Vox or a Meazzi in sight !!! . . . Now that is something!!! Bravo Gégé !!! :clap: A couple of years ago I dubbed Gégé as the "French Onk" (I think most of you know what I mean :D) . . . and that is what he is. I hope he joins this forum.

Gégé is better at getting "that sound" than at writing in english !

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Re: Which "sound" is "that" then?

Postby Bojan » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:24 pm

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Re: Which "sound" is "that" then?

Postby Tab » Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:01 am

We don't mind a posting in French - would love to hear from GeGe, especially on how he set up to achieve his sound.

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Perhaps you could translate for him, Didier. Your English is impecable.
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Re: Which "sound" is "that" then?

Postby Didier » Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:40 am

Tab wrote:We don't mind a posting in French - would love to hear from GeGe, especially on how he set up to achieve his sound.
Perhaps you could translate for him, Didier. Your English is impecable.

Just had a phone talk with Gégé, he gave me some details about the gear he is now using.

Strat with maple or rosewood neck, depending on tunes (both with CS54 PUs).
Home made bass cut passive filter, similar to the Ariab Mk 1 or Charlie Hall's "cutting edge" filter, but with more cut.
Rocktron Prophesy preamp with a Q20 in the send/return loop for echoes.
Behringer Ultracurve for EQ.
TC Electronic Gforce for a very slight reverb.

All of this direct to PC for recording, or through the AC30 (He is not currently using the Line 6 Pod XT).

Not sure you would get the same sound, using the same equipment. The problem is to find the right settings...

He is currently working on "Geronimo" (with a Burns Marvin)...

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Re: Which "sound" is "that" then?

Postby ernie1958 » Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:58 am

Didier wrote:


Home made bass cut passive filter

Hi Didier...why does Gege use the bass cut filter...doesn't that alter the sound drastically,meaning almost no bass end?
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Re: Which "sound" is "that" then?

Postby Didier » Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:18 pm

ernie1958 wrote:
Didier wrote:Home made bass cut passive filter

Hi Didier...why does Gege use the bass cut filter...doesn't that alter the sound drastically,meaning almost no bass end?

A bass cut filter does act like a bass tone control, it only cuts the very lower bass with little noticeable direct effet on tone.
Such a bass cut filter exists in the vibrato channel of AC15 and AC30, and there are many clues that Hank used this channel in the early years, even when not using the vibrato.
It's likely more the resonance and phase shifts brought by this kind of filter which explains its influence.
Charlie's "Cutting Edge" is a passive 4 sections RC filter, giving a theorical 24 dB/oct cut. We have no details about the Ariab, but it's probably similar.
When Gégé and Patrice Bastien started to work on "that sound" nearly 10 years ago, they discoverd this feature, and such a filter has been part of Patrice's PB Box since the first model back in 2000 (among other things).
The one now used by Gégé is similar to Charlie's one, but with more sections.

Of course, contrarily to what some people believes, such a filter is not enough alone to get "that sound", but it's part of it.

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Re: Which "sound" is "that" then?

Postby Bojan » Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:48 pm

Didier, you are a gold mine of knowledge and information. Please convey my best wishes to Gégé.
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Re: Which "sound" is "that" then?

Postby David Martin » Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:27 pm

I notice that Gégé has now joined us!!

Welcome Gégé!

(Your English will be better than my French... I was not allowed to learn it at school...) :o
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Re: Which "sound" is "that" then?

Postby Didier » Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:00 pm

David Martin wrote:I notice that Gégé has now joined us!!

Guess why ? :thumbup:
Gégé has long been a member of the original ShadowMusic forum, but had missed the last "change of address"...

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