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Fiesta Red

Postby Wilson » Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:18 pm

Hi All,
I seem to remember that some time ago there was a discussion about this colour. I am hoping to restore and paint a body in Fiesta Red. All I remember of the colour discussed was that it was a Chevrolet from about 1956. I did find another reference in an ad which said it was a Ford colour used on a Thunderbird for 1 year around 1958. I would greatly appreciated any assistance in discovering the correct colour paint.
I am unable to purchase Aerosol type cans as apparently these cannot be sent through the post.
Thanks a lot.
Wilson.
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Re: Fiesta Red

Postby Geoff Alderton LH » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:42 pm

Hi Wilson.
This site has always been a good starting point for Fender colours.http://home.provide.net/~cfh/fender.html
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Re: Fiesta Red

Postby Didier » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:58 pm

Different shades of "Fiesta red" copied with professional tools from various guitars :

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Re: Fiesta Red

Postby JimTidmarsh » Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:22 pm

You may find this chap useful. I've had stuff off him in the past.
http://www.manchesterguitartech.co.uk/s ... e-lacquer/
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Re: Fiesta Red

Postby JimN » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:22 pm

Didier wrote:Different shades of "Fiesta red" copied with professional tools from various guitars :

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Whilst it is perfectly possible that those three colours were all marketed in Europe under the generic term "red" (which is how Selmer used to describe it), two of them are closer to Coral Pink than to Fiesta Red.

I'll post a picture (soon) showing two immaculate examples (one FR and one CP).

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Re: Fiesta Red

Postby Bojan » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:49 pm

In the meantime, here is picture of a 1956 Fiesta Red Ford Thunderbird:
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Re: Fiesta Red

Postby Didier » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:57 pm

JimN wrote:
Didier wrote:Different shades of "Fiesta red" copied with professional tools from various guitars :

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Whilst it is perfectly possible that those three colours were all marketed in Europe under the generic term "red" (which is how Selmer used to describe it), two of them are closer to Coral Pink than to Fiesta Red.

I'll post a picture (soon) showing two immaculate examples (one FR and one CP).

JN

There is another problem : colour fades with time, depending on light (UV) exposure. The above samples have been made by a friend who worked in the paint business, and had access to the best professional tools to analyse and reproduce any colour. He also painted many guitar bodies for himself and friends !

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Re: Fiesta Red

Postby RogerCook » Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:15 pm

Hi Wilson

This is the Fiesta Red forrmula DuPont paints sent me. It's slightly difficult to read as the formatting of the text hasn't copied very well. The original finishes were cellulose.

I have bought paint described as Fiesta Red from 2 different UK sources and whilst both were close to what I consider the correct shade they were both different!

Roger



Color Owner FENDER GUITAR COMPAN From/To Years -

Paint Code Brand Panel #

Color Name FIESTA RED Lead Free Y

Quality 600 CENTARI 600 Color Variance

Coat 2 COAT: BASECOAT Formulation Date Jul 26, 1998

S-M-P Ind S




Ingredients

Quantity To Mix 1.0LTR (100% Fill) Display Units GRAMS




Ingredient Description Amount Accum. Amount

AM53 RED ORANGE 105.7 105.7

AM1 WHITE H.S. 52.5 158.2

AM86 OPAQUE RED 49.3 207.5

AM55 LIGHT RED 32.5 240.0

AM7 BLACK L.S. 10.1 250.1

AB150 BINDER (LMC) 360.0 610.1

AB160 BINDER (HMC) 341.1 951.2
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Re: Fiesta Red

Postby geoff1711 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:32 pm

And if you look at the latest batches of Mex Strats in Fiesta Red they look far more like Coral to me, very brownish and quite dull, whereas the Biffy Cliro Squier seems to match it very well.

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Re: Fiesta Red

Postby neil2726 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:44 pm

Ford do a nice red which to me is like the Fiesta Red I remember. They use it on the new Ka model.
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