The 50th Anniversary Shads Guitar in action

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Re: The 50th Anniversary Shads Guitar in action

Postby Tone » 02 Oct 2009, 11:21

aardvarkd wrote:They are shipped with Fender 10-46s.


Hi

Fender 10-46 strings seem to be the standard issue on Custom Shop guitars but I wanted 11s on mine as I thought they would be more suited to the "period" of the guitar. Howard recommended and fitted a set of Picato 11-52s which have a wound 3rd. I did wonder whether there might be a volume imbalance in view of the pickup pole pieces being flush with the covers but the guitar sounded fine in the shop. However, when I played it at home at louder volume the 3rd string did indeed sound slightly, but noticeably, quieter. I've changed the wound 3rd for a plain and it's now fine. So, anyone contemplating moving up a gauge might like to bear this in mind. I don't know what the answer would be if you wanted to use 12s or 13s as these gauges aren't available with a plain 3rd - or are they?

Re Geoff's question about the Fender Custom Care lifetime warranty, I've registered mine but hope I'll never have to use it!

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Re: The 50th Anniversary Shads Guitar in action

Postby dave robinson » 02 Oct 2009, 11:53

If you wanted strings more suited to the 'period' as you said, you would be looking at at least 13/56 - and they would be considered 'light', as back then 11/50's were considered as banjo strings. 8-)
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Re: The 50th Anniversary Shads Guitar in action

Postby Tone » 02 Oct 2009, 13:53

Agreed, Dave, but a) I find 12s or 13s difficult to bend and b) I think it likely that anything heavier than 11s would require adjustments to the nut, trem and, possibly, the truss rod and I don't want to go down that road.

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Re: The 50th Anniversary Shads Guitar in action

Postby Geoff Alderton LH » 02 Oct 2009, 14:53

Hi Toni. I may have misunderstood you but are you saying the CRS guitar has flush pole pieces or is it that the G pole is flush?


Hi Peter. Yes it is the original tailpiece on the LG50 and there was a discussion regarding the Antoria logo on Hanks guitar. To be honest we didnt know whether the logo was engraved or embossed so the tailpiece was refurbished without the logo. I think we should start a new thread on the subject Peter. Regards Geoff.
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Re: The 50th Anniversary Shads Guitar in action

Postby David Martin » 02 Oct 2009, 15:00

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Re: The 50th Anniversary Shads Guitar in action

Postby Tone » 02 Oct 2009, 15:08

Hi Geoff

The pole pieces for the top three strings are all flush and those on the bottom strings are raised, those for the D string being slightly higher than the A and bottom E.

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Re: The 50th Anniversary Shads Guitar in action

Postby Geoff Alderton LH » 02 Oct 2009, 16:01

Hi. Thank you Tony & David for the info and the spec sheet. The pushed down G pole as per 34346 is intriguing as it would not be the case in 1959. Must be a Mr Johnson mod to suit a plain string. Does Bruce use a plain or a wound G string? Regards Geoff.
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Re: The 50th Anniversary Shads Guitar in action

Postby aardvarkd » 02 Oct 2009, 17:08

Geoff,
If you apply a magnifying glass to a good photo of 34346 in 1960-ish, for example the one on the front of 'The Shadows Vocals' 12inch LP, you can see that the pole-pieces are in the same positions as the 50th replica's. The B is lowest, D is raised highest and the G and top E almost level with the top of the pickup cover. The bottom two strings are slightly above the cover.
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Re: The 50th Anniversary Shads Guitar in action

Postby roger bayliss » 02 Oct 2009, 19:07

aardvarkd wrote:Geoff,
If you apply a magnifying glass to a good photo of 34346 in 1960-ish, for example the one on the front of 'The Shadows Vocals' 12inch LP, you can see that the pole-pieces are in the same positions as the 50th replica's. The B is lowest, D is raised highest and the G and top E almost level with the top of the pickup cover. The bottom two strings are slightly above the cover.


I checked the CS54 and 57/62's I have and both follow same height arrangement which is very much as you describe the new strat PU's except the G pole is lowered on that model and not on the newer CS PU's
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Re: The 50th Anniversary Shads Guitar in action

Postby MeBHank » 02 Oct 2009, 20:12

Geoff Alderton LH wrote:Hi. Thank you Tony & David for the info and the spec sheet. The pushed down G pole as per 34346 is intriguing as it would not be the case in 1959. Must be a Mr Johnson mod to suit a plain string. Does Bruce use a plain or a wound G string? Regards Geoff.

It would be impossible to alter pickup height after fifty years. It would certainly break the coil, rendering the pickup useless. Plus, even if it was possible to do, Mick is no doubt aware of how sacreligious that would be. Peter is right: check any picture of 34346 and you will see the flat G poles.

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